1807 Info 2a: James Crompton
His son, Thomas Edmund Crompton



Thomas Edmund CROMPTON ...
... was born 5 May 1839 at Melton near North Ferriby (GRO ref: Howden 23 53). He trained as a nurseryman with Backhouse Nurseries. During his life he lived at:

Thomas Edmond Crompton c.1900 - 37kB jpg
  • Acomb;
  • 1861 Cottingham
  • 1868 Campsall Hall, Doncaster from where, it is said, he introduced rhubarb to East Yorkshire;
  • 1869 Hoxne (Pronounced Hoxon) - by virtue of Edmond Thomas' birth - a gardener at Oakley Park?;
  • 1870 Frensham in Bristol;
  • 1871 North Road, Preston, where he was a market gardener;
  • 1872 Stakes Road, Preston near Hull, where he was a nurseryman;
  • 1891 Carrick's Row, Preston near Hull, where he was an agricultural labourer;
  • 1896 Reedmar, Preston near Hull.
Source: Family papers

Left: Assumed to be Thomas Edmund Crompton dated c.1900 at Carrick Row Source: Sally Weston, with thanks

Cottingham - serving an apprenticeship

1861 Census Sun/Mon. 7/8th April 1861
Source:     FHL Film  TNA Ref RG09
            Piece: 3576; Folio: 64; Page: 30; Sched: 171
Dwelling:   Raywell Lodge    
Place:      Cottingham, York ER, England

Name                   Rel   Mar  Age  Occupation  Birthplace 
Cornelius T Watherall  Head   M   32   Coachman    Lincs, Grandborough
Elizabeth Watherall    Wife   M   32               Yorks, Barnby on Marsh
Charlotte Watherall     Dau        2               Yorks, Raywell
John Hy Watherall       Son        9mo             Yorks, Raywell
Thomas E Crompton      Lodger U    21  Gardener    Yorks, Melton 
Henry Weatherill       Lodger U    23  Groom       Lincs, Grantham
1807info2a, sheet 2
Right: OS map showing the position of what is believed to be Raywell Lodge, Cottingham HU16 5YL OS map of Raywell Lodge - 55kB jpg

His marriage to Mary Louisa MOORE

 William   and Mary Moore
 b.....~1813   b.....~1812
             |
|============|================|============|========||
Mary louisa  Sarah harriette  Edward       William    
b.13aug1841  b.13aug1841      b.           b.
c.19sep1841  c.19sep1841      c.17mar1839  c.30apr1837
d.07sep1880
Thomas Edmond married Mary Louise MOORE of Campsall, Doncaster, (GRO ref: Doncaster 9c 627) who was born on 13 August1841 (family letter) in Stoke D' Abernon, which is just inside the M25. (GRO ref: Epsom 4 120)

Right: Map locating Stoke D'Abernon, which also shows where one of the family lives in 2010
Map locating Stoke D'Abernon - 37kB jpg
1807info2a, sheet 3
In the 1841 census, months before before Mary Louisa was born, shows that her mother Mary and her two eldest children lived two doors beyond The Plough Inn The Enumerator walked from Upper Farm, to the Rectory and Lower Farm and toward The Old Plough and River Lane House. Mary's husband, William, is not with the family. The Chelsea FC training ground is now opposite The Rectory.

Right: An close-up of the 1871 map locating the Plough Inn, Stoke D'Abernon. The cottages along Plough Lane, now Station Road, are thought to be where the MOOREs lived and Stoke Lodge, where William MOORE worked.
An 1871 map locating the Plough Inn, Stoke D'Abernon - 50kB gif
1841 Census Sun/Mon  6/7 June 1841
Source:   FHL Film TNA Ref HO107
          Piece: 1071; Book: 11; Folio: 8; Page: 11; Line: 18 
Dwelling: [Two doors from the Plough Inn towards the Old Plough]
Place:    Stoke D'Abernon, Surrey, England
  
Name          Age  Occupation         Born in County
Mary Moore     30                           Y
William Moore   4                           Y 
Edward Moore    2                           Y 
            
Note: Ages are usually rounded down to the nearest five years.

The 1841 census shows that Mary's husband was not living at home. William MOORE was one of seven servant at Stoke House, the home of the Phillips family.

1841 Census Sun/Mon  6/7 June 1841
Source:   FHL Film TNA Ref HO107
          Piece: 1071; Book: 11; Folio: 8; Page: 9; Line: 1
Dwelling: Stoke House
Place:    Stoke D'Abernon, Surrey, England
  
Name                Age  Occupation         Born in County
Mary Phillips       45   Independent              Y
Frederick Phillips  20                            N
.... 
William Moore       30   Male servant             N 
            
Note: Ages are usually rounded down to the nearest five years.
1807info2a, sheet 4

The History of The Manor, Stoke D'Abernon records that:

'In 1820, the Manor of Stoke D'Abernon was sold to Hugh Smith, a wealthy lawyer who bought it and the advowson (the right to a benefice or living from the church) for his son the Rev. Hugh Smith. On his death in 1852, it was purchased by the Rev. Frederick Parr Phillips, the grandson of the Duc d’Orleans. The advowson came with it, (together with practically the whole parish of about 1000 acres, including Bookham Lodge, Slyfield House and all farms and cottages as far as the Tilt in Cobham).

Right: Stoke Manor pre-1850. At this time the Manor hosted many national events with garden parties and pageants on the lawns for local people.
Stoke Manor pre 1850 - 37kB jpg

This appears to contradict the 1841 census as there appears to be no record of a Hugh Smith in the 1841 census for Stoke D'Abernon.

Source: A history of The Manor, Stoke D'Abernon


Campsall, where they met

The family letter records that, in 1868, Thomas was a gardener at Campsall Hall. The 1851 census shows that the MOORE family had been living in Campsall since 1846 when the second set of twins were born. In 1851 Mary Louisa's mother kept a grocers shop. Her father William, though again absent from the family census, had risen to the rank of butler at Campsmount House.

1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851
Source:     FHL Film  TNA Ref H1O7
            Piece: 2348; Folio: 125; Page: 7; Sched: 27
Dwelling:       
Place:      Campsall, Yorkshire, England

Name            Rel   Mar  Age  Occupation          Birthplace 
Mary Moore     Head    M   39   Grocer shop keeper  Norfolk, Aslacton
Wm Moore        Son        14   Scholar             Surrey, Clapham
Edward Moore    Son        12   Scholar             Surrey, Stoke D Ab[ernon] Abnoe
Sarah Moore     Dau         9   Scholar             Surrey, Stoke D Ab[ernon]
Mary Moore      Dau         9   Scholar             Surrey, Stoke D Ab[ernon]
Letitia Moore   Dau         5   Scholar             Yorks, Campsall 
Julia Moore     Dau         5   Scholar             Yorks, Campsall
1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851
Source:     FHL Film  TNA Ref H1O7
            Piece: 2348; Folio: 130; Page: 17; Sched: 69
Dwelling:   Campsmount [House]  
Place:      Campsall, Yorkshire, England

Name               Rel  Mar  Age  Occupation        Birthplace  
Agness Broich      Serv  M   48   Housekeeper       Yorks, Brompton
Wm Moore           Serv  M   38   Butler            Norfolk, Long Stratton
Harriet Armstrong  Serv  U   22   Housemaid         Notts, Farnfield
Sarah Geldard      Serv  U   18   Kitchen maid      Yorks, Brompton   
1807info2a, sheet 5
During the 18th century the Cooke-Yarboroughs built Campsmount. In the second world war the house was used by the Ministry of Defence and afterwards it fell into disrepair and was demolished during the 1960s.

Right: Campsmount House
Campsmount House - 31kB jpg

In 1861 Mary was living in the same house as her now married twin, Sarah and her father-in- law.

1861 Census Sun/Mon. 7/8th April 1861
Source:     FHL Film  TNA Ref RG09
            Piece: 3521; Folio: 95; Page: 12; Sched: 61
Dwelling:       
Place:      Campsall, York ER, England

Name                Rel  Mar  Age  Occupation     Birthplace 
Mark Culling        Head  M   59   Game keeper    Norfolk, Sprowson 
Caroline Culling    Wife  M   46                  Norfolk, Burgh Apton
Mark Culling         Son  M   22   Woodman        Norfolk, Brook
Sarah Culling      D-i-L  M   19                  Surrey, Stoke
Honor Culling        Dau  U   17                  Norfolk, Alpington
Laura Culling        Dau  U   12                  Norfolk, Erlham
Mary Moore          Bord  U   19   House servant  Surrey, Stoke
Arthur Culling      Gson       1                  Yorks, Campsall
Caroline L Culling  Gdau       2mo                Yorks, Campsall 

The family letter records that, in 1868, Thomas Edmund was a gardener at Campsall Hall.

During the 18th century Campsall was dominated by two families of landed gentry. At one end, the Bacon-Franks built Campsall Hall. The villagers were still mostly employed with farming and working on the two village estates. In the 1950s the Bacon-Franks abandoned Campsall Hall. From 1956 the local authority and the National Coal Board developed a large area of housing in Campsall Park and Campsall Hall was converted into flats until 1986 when it was demolished. It is now Campsall Country Park on Churchfield Road, DN6 9LH

Right: Campsall Hall in 1900
Campsall Hall - 40kB jpg
1807info2a, sheet 6
Right: A map locating Campsall, Doncaster A map locating Campsall, Doncaster - 78kB gif

Marriage

Source: GRO Marriages
Crompton Thomas Edmund   3rd Quarter 1865  Doncaster  9c 627
Moore Mary Louisa        3rd Quarter 1865  Doncaster  9c 627

A short stay in Hoxne, Suffolk

By virtue of Edmond Thomas' birth that we know, shortly after their marriage, Thomas Edmund lived at Hoxne (pronounced Hoxon) in 1869 and, since he had been a gardener at large estate houses, it is assumed he was a gardener at Hoxne Hall/Oakley Park.

Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Hoxne Hall, Suffolk
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Left: Hoxne Hall circa 1819 Centre: Church Street, Hoxne 1904 Right: Hoxne Hall/Oakley Park 1904
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Hoxne Hall circa 1819 - 55kB jpg Hoxne Hall circa - 55kB jpg Church Street, Hoxne 1904 - 34kB jpg Church Street, Hoxne 1904 - 34kB jpg Hoxne Hall/Oakley Park circa 1904 - 36kB jpg Hoxne Hall/Oakley Park circa 1904 - 36kB jpg

Source: hoxne.net (Accessed: 23 October 2014)

When Edward Kerrison died on 09 March 1853, he was succeeded by his son Sir Edward Clarence Kerrison, 2nd Baronet (2 January 1821 – 11 July 1886), who probably employed Thomas Edmund. In 1921 Sir Edward ‘expended an immense sum’ making many improvements and alterations. It was renamed 'Oakley Park'. Sir John Benn Walsh reported '‘The furniture is costly in the extreme, vases, Buhl cabinets, porcelaine (sic) meet you at every turn’

1807info2a,sheet 7
1885 map of Hoxne, Suffolk - 101Kb jpg
Above: 1885 map of Hoxne, Suffolk showing Hoxne Hall. The red spot shows the position of the orchard gate.

Oakley Park was demolished in the 1920's, the only parts still remaining are the stables, which have been converted to residential occupation.

Source: KERRISON, Sir Edward, 1st bt. (1776-1853), of Oakley Park (Accessed: 23 October 2014)

Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Present day Hoxne, Suffolk - Author: 12 October 2014
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1. Looking up Low Street 2. Looking up Low Street 3. Looking down Low Street
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Low Street, Hoxne 12/10/14 - 33kB jpg Low Street, Hoxne 12/10/14 - 33kB jpg Low Street, Hoxne 12/10/14 - 27kB jpg Low Street, Hoxne 12/10/14 - 27kB jpg Low Street, Hoxne 12/10/14 - 33kB jpg Low Street, Hoxne 12/10/14 - 33kB jpg
1. The old orchard gate 2. The old stable block
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The orchard gate, Hoxne Hall 12/10/14 - 62kB jpg The orchard gate, Hoxne Hall - 62kB jpg The old stable block, Hoxne Hall 12/10/14 - 40kB jpg The old stable block,
Hoxne Hall - 40kB jpg

A year later, in 1870, a family letter records that the couple lived in Frensham, Bristol, before settling in Preston, near Hull, as a market gardener.

1807info2a, sheet 8

Settling down in Preston

1871 Census Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1871
Source:      FHL Film  TNA Ref RG10
             Piece: 4778; Folio: 55; Page: 19; Sched: 98
Dwelling:    North Road
Place:       Preston, York, England

Name                    Rel   Mar  Age  Occupation       Birthplace
Thomas Edmund Crompton  Head   M   31   Market Gardener  Yorks, Melton
Mary Louisa Crompton    Wife   M   28   Gardener's wife  Surrey, Clapham
Edmund Thos Crompton    Son         1                    Suffolk, Hoxen (Hoxne)

On his son Arthur's birth certificate his occupation, in 1874, is "market gardener".

By the time of the 1881 census Thomas was a widower, bringing up his four children and living in a tied house, which appears to be the first 'old' house from the cross roads at the centre of Preston, on the road to Salt End.

Mary Louisa CROMPTON died in the third quarter of 1880 (GRO ref: Sculcoates 9d 117)

Right: Mary Louisa Crompton's death notice Source: Glenys Hubbard
Mary Louisa Crompton's death notice - 17kB jpg

Known as Stakes Road until at least 1927 the name was changed to Staithes Road, taking the dialect word for jetty. This can be found, on the Humber shore, beyond Salt End. The Enumerator describes Hedon District 4 as 'All that remaining part of the parish of Preston in the Rural Sanitary District of Sculcoates from and including Mrs Garbutt's House and all the Houses and Cottages on the west side of the Turnpike Road leading through Preston to Wyton Holmes Bridge to Preston Field Farm.

1908 map of Preston 1:10 560 - 63Kb jpg
Above: The 1908 map of Preston, scale 1:10 560
The red circle marks the possible location of Thomas's house, being the first house in Stakes/Staithes Road
1807info2a, sheet 9
Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Stakes/Staithes Road, Preston - Author: June 2016
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1. Preston crossroads showing the possible Thomas Edmund's first house adjacent to the pub (centre)
2. Looking back to the cross roads with Thomas Edmunds first house on the site of the pub or the land behind the hedge
3. Cross roads road sign for Staithes Road
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Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 1 - 25kB jpg Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 1 - 25kB jpg Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 2 - 50kB jpg Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 2 - 50kB jpg Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 3 - 39kB jpg Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 3 - 39kB jpg

Mary died on 07 September 1880 at Preston, Hull (GRO ref: Sculcoates 9d 117) aged 38.

1881 Census   Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881
Source:       FHL Film  PRO Ref RG11
              Piece: 4752; Folio: 44; Page: 1; Sched: 1
Dwelling:     Stakes Road (Enumerator's first house)
Place:        Preston, York, England

Name                    Rel  Mar  Age Occupation      Birthplace
Thomas Edward Crompton  Head Wid  41  Market Gardner  Yorks, Meltham
Edmond Thomas Crompton  Son       11  Scholar         Norfolk, Hoxen (Hoxne)
Agnes Louisa Crompton   Dau        9  Scholar         Yorks, Preston
Arthur Crompton         Son        6  Scholar         Yorks, Preston
Albert Crompton         Son        4                  Yorks, Preston
Transcription error: For Edward read Edmund and for Meltham read Metham

It is possible, that when John Harper moved to Hyde, James moved in with his eldest son Thomas Edmund, who was now an agricultural labourer, living in Carrick's Row, Preston.

1891 Census   Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891
Source:       FHL Film      PRO Ref RG12
              Piece: 3921; Folio: 32; Page: 9; Sched: 
Dwelling:     Carrick's Row
Place:        Preston, York, England

Name               Rel     Mar  Age  Occupation  Birthplace
Thomas E Crompton  Head    Wid   51  Ag. Lab.    Yorks, Melton    
Albert Crompton    Son           14              Yorks, Preston
James Crompton     Father  Wid   87              Yorks, Bridlington
Transcription error: For Melton read Metham
Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Carrick Row, Preston - Author: June 2016
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1. During restoration and surrounds
2. Carrick Row from front showing access to
the garden centre
3. Carrick Row from the side
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Carrick Row pre restoration - 51kB jpg Carrick Row pre restoration - 51kB jpg Carrick Row from front - 35kB jpg Carrick Row from front - 35kB jpg Carrick Row from the side - 33kB jpg Carrick Row from the side - 33kB jpg
1807info2a, sheet 10
A map locating Carrick's Row, Preston 1911 - 57kB jpg
Above: A map locating Carrick's Row, in West End, Preston 1911 Scale 1:10 560
Carrick's Row is marked with a red circle. The cottages were marked on the 1956 map but not the 1970.

1807info2a, sheet 11

Thomas Edmund's death

Hull Daily Mail
26 March 1896
Preston suicide.
An inquest was held yesterday in the Bell Inn, Preston, near Hull, by Mr H. Birks, district coroner, on the body of a man, Thomas Edmund Crumpton [sic], who committed suicide in a shed in Reedmar, near Preston. Mary Tate stated that she was the sister of the deceased and lived next door to him. On Thursday last she and the deceased visited their father in the Sculcoates Union [workhouse]. She anticipated hearing of his death very soon. On Friday morning the deceased received a letter from the Governor of the Union stating that his father was dead. Witness noticed that the information affected him very much. She had heard him express his sorrow at the thought of his father having to die in the workhouse, but witness did not see by his manner he had any thought of taking his own life. She did not see him   on Saturday as she was at work all day. On Monday morning she went to his house, and saw two envelopes lying on the table. One was addressed to his daughter who resided in Hedon, and the other to his son (sic) [brother] John Crumpton (sic), living in Hyde, near Manchester. There were no letters in the envelopes. The first she heard of his death was from a neighbour, who told her his body had been found in a shed. George Brunton, postman, Hedon, said he saw the deceased on Saturday, but did not notice anything in his manner to be alarmed at. Arthur Tomlinson, butcher, stated he found the body yesterday hanging by a rope attached to a beam. He cut him down, and found he was dead, and immediately informed the police. The jury returned a verdict that the deceased committed suicide whilst in an unsound state of mind.

The Eastern Morning News and Hull Advertiser
Thursday, 26 March 1896
SUICIDE AT PRESTON - INQUEST
 Yesterday afternoon, the District Coroner, (Mr. Henry Birks) held an inquest at the Bell Inn Preston, touching the death of Thomas Edward (sic) Crompton.
  Mary Tate, widow, of Preston said that the deceased was her brother. He was 56 years of age and a gardener. He had been rather downcast lately. His father had been in the union and she and the deceased went to see him on the Wednesday in last week. She had heard the deceased say that he wished that he was dead, but he had never used any threat that he would do away with himself. His father died last Friday and the witness found a letter on Monday on the table in his house informing him of his father’s death. She last saw her brother on Friday night. When she came home on Saturday afternoon, she noticed that the front door of his house was fastened, but she did not suspect anything. On the following morning, however, her little girl told her that the back door was open. On the Sunday afternoon the
back door had been shut. On the Monday morning, she went into the house and found two envelopes, one addressed to the deceased’s son at Elton [Etton] and the other to his brother at Hyde, near Manchester. There were no letters in the envelopes. She knew that the deceased did not like the idea of his father dying at the union. But he made no special observation about it. A neighbour informed her on Tuesday that the body had been found hanging in a shed.
  George Branton, postman, Hedon, said that he saw the deceased in Preston on Saturday morning. He asked him if he was Going to Hedon. The deceased said “Yes&# 8221;, and as the witness was driving, he offered him a ride in his cart. The deceased then said that he would not go. He seemed rather strange. Arthur Tomlinson, butcher, Preston, deposed to finding the body hanging in a shed in Reedmar, Preston.
 The jury returned a verdict of "Suicide while in a state of unsound mind."

1807info2a, sheet 12

His suicide is thought to have been caused by the shame of the death of his father, James, in Sculcoates Union (Hull Workhouse). The story is told by an extract of the Hull Daily Mail, dated 26 March 1896, page 3, column 1. The second transcription is from The Eastern Morning News and Hull Advertiser of Thursday, 26th March, 1896, Page 6, Column 2.

The Hull Daily Mail reported that Thomas' death was at Reedmar. Local research suggests that this may be a dialect pronunciation for Reedmire, a name associated with an open land drain. Whilst the 1855 map locates Reedmire, close to where Thomas lived in 1881, it is known as a sewer rather than a drain. On the modern 1:50 000 map the drain is shown but not named.

GRO Death
Thomas Edmund Crompton 56 Sculcoates 9d 110 1st Qt. 1896
Registration District Sculcoates
1896 DEATH in Sub-District of Hedon in the Counties of Kingston upon Hull and York
No When and
where died
Name and surname Sex Age Occupation Cause of
Death
Informant When registered Signature of registrar
174 24th March 1896
Preston
Thomas Edmund
Crompton
Male 56 Gardner That the deceased
hanged himself
whilst in an
unsound state
of mind
Birks coroner
Inquest held
25th March 1896
27th March 1896 Thomas
Johnson

The 1855 OS map showing the probable location of Thomas' death - 62kB jpg
Above: The 1855 OS first edition of Preston, Hull.
1807info2a, sheet 13

The 1855 map shows the best possible locations of the described incident. Reedmar Drain is shown as a blue line. The area of trees suggest an orchard or a market garden, perhaps where Thomas Edmund worked. From the probable farm yard, a track runs south-south-east, across two fields to cross the Drain at a bridge. Adjacent to this track is a building marked by a red circle, the probable shed, mentioned above.

With the exception of the north-south section, Reedmar Drain is still visible today, but serving as a drain rather than an open sewer. The farm is now a housing estate containing Village Farm Road, with the possible shed located in the back gardens between numbers 14 and 16.

The 1855 OS map over laying a 2014 aerial photograph showing the probable location of Thomas' death - 77kB jpg
Above: The 1855 OS map over laying a 2014 aerial photograph showing the probable location of Thomas' death
Hoverbox Photo Gallery - The location of Thomas Edmond's suicide - Author: June 2016
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1. Showing the modern development, which was probably Thomas Edmund's access to the field and drain 2. Showing the line of the Redmar drainage ditch and Salted Power Station
3. Showing the possible location of the 'shed'
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